{"id":2269,"date":"2024-08-02T04:29:40","date_gmt":"2024-08-02T04:29:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.sutyo.com\/discover-the-creative-ways-bartenders-are-using-cheese-in-cocktails\/"},"modified":"2024-08-02T04:29:40","modified_gmt":"2024-08-02T04:29:40","slug":"discover-the-creative-ways-bartenders-are-using-cheese-in-cocktails","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.sutyo.com\/tr\/discover-the-creative-ways-bartenders-are-using-cheese-in-cocktails\/","title":{"rendered":"Discover the Creative Ways Bartenders Are Using Cheese in Cocktails"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p class=\"\">When reading about the Ancient Greeks, there\u2019s often descriptions of drinking wine with grated cheese. In Homer\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gutenberg.org\/files\/2199\/2199-h\/2199-h.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>An Iliad<\/em><\/a>, there\u2019s a passage about a drink called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.worldhistory.org\/Kykeon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Kykeon<\/a> that describes a woman mixing \u201ca mess with Pramnian wine; she grated goat\u2019s milk cheese into it with a bronze grater, threw in a handful of white barley-meal, and having thus prepared the mess she bade them drink it.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"\">It may seem unusual to our modern sensibilities to have wine with grated cheese but bartenders across the world are experimenting with cheese and cocktails. My first and only experience was the Parmigiano Sour, which is basically a Pisco sour but with Parmesan cheese. I had the opportunity to talk to a cheesemonger and bartender about the possibilities of making cocktails with cheese.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Cheese in Cocktails<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"\">Most people are familiar with cheese pairing with cocktails but not cheese within the drink, aside from an over-the-top Bloody Mary. And frankly, Bloody Mary\u2019s are not known for the quality of the cheese. But <a href=\"https:\/\/www.momosejulia.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Julia Momos\u00e9<\/a>, partner and creative director of Kumako and author of <em>The Way of Cocktail<\/em>, sees possibility in the combination: \u201cWe&#8217;re already using milk and cream in cocktails, and we are also using acid in cocktails. Cheese is basically dairy and acid altogether. So I think it makes a lot of sense.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Emilia D&#8217;Albero, Chief Department Manager and Chief Buyer for <a href=\"https:\/\/shop.greenegrape.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Greene Grape<\/a> who took second at the Cheesemonger International NYC 2021, sees the possibility of cheese in cocktails, citing the versatility of the food. <\/p>\n<p class=\"\">But not everyone is enthusiastic about using cheese in cocktails. Freddie Sarkis, Chief Liquor Officer at <a href=\"https:\/\/liquorlab.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Liquor Lab<\/a> said: \u201cA lot of people are looking for something new, and they want to push the envelope because they&#8217;re bored. But the question is, ultimately, are there a million ingredients to put into cocktails before cheese? Yes,\u201d Sarkis said. <\/p>\n<p class=\"\">A big part of the problem is the chemistry; how do you mix cheese into a drink when it won\u2019t dissolve?\u00a0 He offers the comparison with strawberries: \u201cIf you think about making a strawberry syrup, that&#8217;s easy. You can juice a strawberry, you could simply simmer it in syrup to infuse its flavor. You can&#8217;t really do that with cheese.\u201d One could potentially make a cheese sauce syrup, but that sounds repulsive, he noted, for putting it into a mixed drink. <\/p>\n<p class=\"\">There are ways of making it work, Sarkis noted, having made a few drinks with cheese. However, using cheese can be very expensive, whether it\u2019s the equipment or the ingredients themselves, which can make it out of reach for the at-home bartender. <\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Creamy Cheese Cocktails<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"\">All three experts noted a few ways of using cheese in cocktails. The first is using the cheese as an accompaniment or replacement for dairy or eggs. For instance, Sarkis recalled making a cocktail for Chef David Rodriquez at De La Costa, where he made bleu cheese into a spumante foam.\u00a0 He combined the foam with the egg white and layered it onto the top of the Pisco sour, instead of mixing it in. That worked for Sarkis, but he noted that he was working under the guidance of a well-known chef.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure class=\"sqs-block-image-figure              intrinsic\"><\/p>\n<p>              <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"thumb-image\" data-image=\"https:\/\/images.squarespace-cdn.com\/content\/v1\/5eb43938f468c330e7d8d665\/e6cfd512-f5cf-4ae1-a24c-7ed92fb44f16\/Mascarpone+drink+photo+credit+Huge+Galdones+Photography.jpg\" data-image-dimensions=\"427x640\" data-image-focal-point=\"0.5,0.5\" alt=\"\" data-load=\"false\" data-image-id=\"61a60e823b53df1223a53fae\" data-type=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/images.squarespace-cdn.com\/content\/v1\/5eb43938f468c330e7d8d665\/e6cfd512-f5cf-4ae1-a24c-7ed92fb44f16\/Mascarpone drink photo credit Huge Galdones Photography.jpg?format=1000w\"><figcaption class=\"image-caption-wrapper\">\n<p class=\"\">Mascarpone drink photo credit Huge Galdones Photography<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"\">Another example that Momos\u00e9 cited was the use of mascarpone as a sort of replacement for egg white. There was a dollop of mascarpone, angostura bitters, fresh lemon juice, vanilla, Creme de Noyeaux, Kirsh, Brandy, and nutmeg as a garnish. She described it as \u201csuper frothy, creamy, rich and airy and had the qualities of an egg-white cocktail or an egg white and cream cocktail, but it was just cheese.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Then there are the cocktails in between. In her research, D&#8217;Albero found that New York City restaurant Ai Fiori made a \u201cBeet Salad\u201d cocktail that included whipped goat cheese, beet salad, and Bacardi Rum.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Drier Cheese and Cheese Infusion Cocktails<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"\">There are also possibilities with non-creamy cheeses like parmesan and pecorino. Drier cheese like parmesan or pecorino can be grated either onto the top of a drink or used on the rim. As noted before, the Parmigiano Sour had the cheese grated on top, akin to nutmeg in eggnog or other drinks. Sarkis noted the use of pecorino and added it to the rim like salt in a Margarita. Then again, that\u2019s not really using the cheese in the drink but as an accompaniment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">There\u2019s also infusing the alcohol with cheese or cheese rinds. Sarkis noted that when he worked at the award-winning Broken Shaker, they made Garrett&#8217;s Old Fashioned, a twist on the famous Chicago popcorn place Garrett\u2019s Popcorn. He made clarified popcorn syrup, salt, and butter bitters. <\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Then he tried about 10 different cheeses before finding parmesan and aged cheddar. He explained, he would \u201csteep those in grain alcohol for three days and then strained off the grain alcohol and then use that as a mist on top of the drink. So you&#8217;re combining the popcorn with salted butter and then the cheese came from the aromatic component of the spray.\u201d Along with an Old Forester whiskey, the drink had caramel and cheesy quality to it, just like Garrett\u2019s signature popcorn.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure class=\"sqs-block-image-figure              intrinsic\"><\/p>\n<p>              <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"thumb-image\" data-image=\"https:\/\/images.squarespace-cdn.com\/content\/v1\/5eb43938f468c330e7d8d665\/33cf7b0c-11d8-49f1-9885-ffe491356f9c\/Cheers+Mr.+Johnson+by+Hebert+Moreira.jpeg\" data-image-dimensions=\"3024x4032\" data-image-focal-point=\"0.5,0.5\" alt=\"\" data-load=\"false\" data-image-id=\"61a60f77badcac6c946cf80c\" data-type=\"image\" src=\"https:\/\/images.squarespace-cdn.com\/content\/v1\/5eb43938f468c330e7d8d665\/33cf7b0c-11d8-49f1-9885-ffe491356f9c\/Cheers Mr. Johnson by Hebert Moreira.jpeg?format=1000w\"><figcaption class=\"image-caption-wrapper\">\n<p class=\"\">Cheers Mr. Johnson by Hebert Moreira<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p class=\"\">Hebert Moreira, Bar Manager at New York Italian restaurant <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rezdora.nyc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rezdora<\/a>, explained that he previously had experiences with cheese infusions with his mentor Sean Johnson at Gabriel Kreuther. At Rezdora, he decided to make a Parmesan-infused gin cocktail called \u201cCheers Mr. Johnson\u201d, after his mentor and as an homage drink, he had made previously. He got the idea for the drink because the restaurant had a surplus of Parmesan rinds (often used for stock). He used Gin from Parma, Italy, also the home region to the famous cheese as well as Vermouth infused with Basil.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Momos\u00e9 mentioned combining Parmesan and Absinthe with a touch of soy sauce for a Sazerac. \u201cI really love soy sauce and really savory, salty cheeses together,\u201d she said, \u201cthe cheese&#8217;s a little bit of a brighter note, the soy sauce a little bit of a deeper note, but somehow in that umami scale, they&#8217;re just going hand in hand.\u201d She\u2019d add a rinse of that to her Sazerac with some cognac. <\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Recently, D&#8217;Albero came across a parmesan-based drink at the New York City-based restaurant <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rezdora.nyc\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rezdora. <\/a>The \u201cCheers Mr. Johnson\u201d contains \u201cgin di Parmigiano, vodka, and basil Cocchi americano.\u201d However, she had yet to try it as of our interview but plans on trying it next time she can.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Proceed with Caution<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"\">While the experts noted some creative uses of cheese in cocktails, there are definitely some drawbacks to the use of the ingredient. As noted above, Sarkis explained that these drinks tended to require special equipment to make the foam, etc., and expertise to make, which might not make it easy for any home bartender to make or even afford. <\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Plus, there\u2019s the cost of the cheese itself. Bartenders typically like to use the best ingredients (lime juice v. fresh squeezed lime) and cheese. D&#8217;Albero said, \u201cI feel like some of these cocktail bars are using definitely more expensive cheese. I would be kind of concerned about how well the cocktail would do on the menu and whether or not it would make it worth it to buy that kind of cheese.\u201d And the concept of a cheese cocktail may be so out there for many customers that it may not be feasible for restaurants to even serve it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">There\u2019s also the concern about storage. Cheese spoils more easily than other cocktail ingredients so finding refrigeration is important. Momos\u00e9 cautions that infusions with cheese should be treated like cheese and stored as such, instead of letting it sit out.\u00a0 <\/p>\n<p class=\"\">There\u2019s also the freshness issue of the cheese. D\u2019Albero pointed out, \u201cI would be more concerned about how often they prepare these cheese-related ingredients and how fresh they are. Are they grating the parmesan fresh every day because you know as a cheese person with a lot of cheese knowledge, I don&#8217;t want to eat you know, week old grated Parmesan.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Plus, Momos\u00e9 pointed out you want to be concerned about the cheese curdling the drink. As anyone who has had the misfortune of drinking a Cement Mixer can know, curdled alcohol is no fun.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Finally, it\u2019s notable that all three experts noted that the use of cheese in cocktails is not a common occurrence right now. The challenges above might make it unlikely to be the new <em>thing<\/em> in cocktails. But next time you\u2019re at a top restaurant and you see a cocktail with cheese, you might want to try it. <\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When reading about the Ancient Greeks, there\u2019s often descriptions of drinking wine with grated cheese. In Homer\u2019s An Iliad, there\u2019s a passage about a drink called Kykeon that describes a woman mixing \u201ca mess with Pramnian wine; she grated goat\u2019s milk cheese into it with a bronze grater, threw in a handful of white barley-meal, &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sutyo.com\/tr\/discover-the-creative-ways-bartenders-are-using-cheese-in-cocktails\/\" class=\"more-link\">Okumaya devam et<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Discover the Creative Ways Bartenders Are Using Cheese in Cocktails&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":1271,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_exactmetrics_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[395],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2269","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-milk-and-diary"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.sutyo.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2269","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.sutyo.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.sutyo.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.sutyo.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1271"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.sutyo.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2269"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.sutyo.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2269\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.sutyo.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2269"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.sutyo.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2269"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.sutyo.com\/tr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2269"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}